On Monday, November 14, Frank Plasberg (65) will lead the political talk show "hart aber fair" in the first for the last time. The 65-year-old will then retire. However, the moderator does not want to know anything about rest, as becomes clear in an interview with the "Bild am Sonntag" newspaper.

In it he reveals that he would rather "do his Spanish properly". In addition, for 30 years he has dreamed of navigating the European rivers and canals in his cabin boat. He finally has time for that. The first travel destination has already been decided: next year we are planning to go to Amsterdam.

However, his family has completely different plans for Frank Plasberg: his wife and son want him to take part in "Let's Dance". "But I won't do them that favour," assures the journalist, who says he "absolutely can't" dance.

Fortunately, he is not financially dependent on participating in the dance show. "Of course I made provisions in good time so that I wouldn't have to rely on my pension," says Plasberg. But he also knows "what it's like to have to make do with little". He himself does not come from a wealthy background.

Frank Plasberg started his journalistic career at the "Schwäbische Zeitung" and the Munich "Abendzeitung". In 1987 he moved in front of the camera and moderated the "Current Hour" for 15 years, becoming editor in charge in 1993.

Plasberg has been presenting the political magazine "hard but fair" since 2001. After almost 22 years, 750 episodes and over 2,000 guests, he says goodbye to the format on Monday (November 14). The topic of his farewell program at 9 p.m. on the first is: “Off to the desert – who is looking forward to the World Cup in Qatar?” Guests include Federal Interior Minister Nancy Faeser (52), former national football player Thomas Hitzlsperger (40) and sports official Willi Lemke (76).