Professor de Waal, let's talk about the prevailing gender relations, about the topic of gender - nobody else does that! that I spoke to last.

To what extent? Interviewers tell me something like: "Biology is not to be trusted. For decades it has been used against us to establish our traditional role in society."

Do you share this impression? It can hardly be denied. For a long time, primate research has been obsessed with the supposedly unrestrained domination of alpha males, the passive nature of female sexuality, and a cult of violence.

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